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Post by cmgraves on Aug 31, 2011 23:57:36 GMT -6
Has anybody been reading the update version of the Strategic Plan?
Quite a few statements in it about REZONING DAUPHIN ISLAND.
EVERY THING SEEMS TO HINGE ON CHANGING THE POA DEED TO GET RID OF THE RESTRICTIONS AND COVENANTS.
JUST A FEW OF THE EXAMPLES:
"All major revitalization activities proposed here, that are intended to improve the economic vitality
of the Town, require significant changes in zoning regulations. So one of the first actions of the
Town, in cooperation with the other governing entities, must be to codify revised zoning articles
into law that target the major areas of revitalization, such as the central village business district
around LeMoyne Drive, the east end Ferry Landing area, the west end beach entry area, and the east
end forested residential area. This zoning should be amended and revised to assist the Town in
recruiting interested developers and investors who are attracted by the willingness of the Town
"In the process of rezoning considerations, there needs to be an assessment
of the many restrictive covenants that exist in the Town now, such as the Isle Dauphine Club deed restrictions, which need to change in order to make this facility and other areas more viable economic assets to the entire community."
"Dauphin Island Property Owner Association covenants and restrictions should be consistent with the Town’s codes (there are discrepancies now) and considerations must be given to a choice between single family units only, or allowing other kinds of development to occur as well"
If alternative strategies, beside residential redevelopment, are developed for the Island’s west end, the only area of the Island still available for residential building is the forested east end.
SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THE DEVELOPERS AND THE SKYSCRAPER CONDOS ARE COMING.
I CAN SEE IT NOW, THE ISLE DAUPHIN CLUB PROPERTY WITH AT LEAST 4 OR 5 CONDOS SITTING ON TOP OF THE DUNES, BUT THAT CAN'T HAPPEN ON DAUPHIN ISLAND LIKE IT HAS HAPPEN TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.
WE ARE SPECIAL ON DAUPHIN ISLAND, SO LETS JUST BURY OUR HEAD IN THE SAND UNTIL IT IS OVER.
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Post by whistlingdixie on Sept 1, 2011 8:07:00 GMT -6
Wouldn't the membership vote on whether to allow the town to rezone our property? I don't think our board can just arbitrairly decide to give the town that kind of leeway.....maybe I am wrong, and in this case, I would welcome being corrected.  |
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Post by cmgraves on Sept 2, 2011 17:50:45 GMT -6
Maybe somebody needs ask if it has something with the board trying to change the POA Deed again.
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Post by whistlingdixie on Sept 2, 2011 18:23:35 GMT -6
I am wondering if you ever read any of the other posts.....I asked a specific question...it was addressed to the forum in general, but you posted some vague, strange, question that was not pertinent to mine....Can the board give the town arbitrary leeway to change the zoning of the POA property without a vote of the membership? Someone? Anyone?
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Post by cmgraves on Sept 2, 2011 19:20:29 GMT -6
For the real truth send an email to the Mayor and the Town Council Members and ask they to email you back the answer. If they say they do not know ask Bob Campbell the Town Attorney he will know.
According to the Town's documents, the Town has to change the POA Deed to do it. You would have to vote on it, but they are trying to bring it under an amendment instead of super vote. This would be giving the property to the public use.
Before they were just asking the members to vote before they went through the courts. Now the Board will have to do a special Election to vote on the Deed change. I would be very skeptical of the whole thing.
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Post by will on Sept 3, 2011 8:00:01 GMT -6
Actually, since we have been violating the deed restriction for almost 30 years, a judge if asked would probably remove it from the deed.
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Post by JBJ on Sept 4, 2011 8:40:01 GMT -6
Wouldn't the membership vote on whether to allow the town to rezone our property? I don't think our board can just arbitrairly decide to give the town that kind of leeway.....maybe I am wrong, and in this case, I would welcome being corrected. Again--not speaking for the board, but I would say that a vote of the membership is not required to pursue a zoning change. But keep in mind, the zoning change being considered--i.e. change to Resort/Commercial would allow housing components whereas the present zoning doesn't--or at least doesn't seem to. Thought is that the change would be necessary if we are to effect our "vision plan" or if outsourcing that includes housing of some kind is to happen. There's also the opinion present that the current zoning does allow housing of the type we would want. But the final say re. any major change to the ownership/control/operation -zoning notwithstanding-- will be the membership's. |
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Post by whistlingdixie on Sept 4, 2011 14:35:17 GMT -6
Thanks for taking time to answer my question.
Again--not speaking for the board, but I would say that a vote of the membership is not required to pursue a zoning change. But keep in mind, the zoning change being considered--i.e. change to Resort/Commercial would allow housing components whereas the present zoning doesn't--or at least doesn't seem to.
Thought is that the change would be necessary if we are to effect our "vision plan" or if outsourcing that includes housing of some kind is to happen. There's also the opinion present that the current zoning does allow housing of the type we would want.
But the final say re. any major change to the ownership/control/operation -zoning notwithstanding--will be the membership's. [/quote]
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Post by cmgraves on Sept 4, 2011 20:22:38 GMT -6
For you information you need to ask the Town for the New COMPREHENSIVE PLAN and Strategic Plan combined.
Town Council Meeting
June 3, 2008
NEW BUSINESS: SARPC Proposal
The scope of the proposal from SARPC to assist the Planning Commission in the writing of a new version of the Comprehensive Plan and Overlay Districts Ordinance is far greater that what was desired. Nannette Davidson will contact SARPC to discuss the proposal and request changes.
Note--Sarpc is the South Alabama Regonial Commission.
Town Council Meeting
October 21, 2008
NEW BUSINESS: Miss-Al Sea Grant Letter of Intent
The motion to send a letter of intent to the Miss-Al Sea Grant Consortium for funding to assist in paying for the rewriting and updating of the Comprehensive
Plan was made by Jackie Previto and seconded by Mary Thompson. It carried with all present voting yea.
This is 2011
I have asked and asked
I guess it is time to send all information to the Alabama State ethics Commission and find out if it is paid for three years ago is it a public document?
Could all of this have to wait until the POA DEED IS CHANGED?
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Post by whistlingdixie on Sept 5, 2011 8:03:58 GMT -6
I 'spect you are right....I think there's some fancy words for what we have been doing....."settin' a precedent" something like that...maybe I am wrong....  Actually, since we have been violating the deed restriction for almost 30 years, a judge if asked would probably remove it from the deed. |
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Post by cmgraves on Sept 5, 2011 13:24:07 GMT -6
Bruce,
Do any of the following Statements from the Town's Strategic Plan have any to do with the Changes of the POA Deed?
"In the process of rezoning considerations, there needs to be an assessment
of the many restrictive covenants that exist in the Town now, such as the Isle Dauphine Club deed restrictions,
"Dauphin Island Property Owner Association covenants and restrictions should be consistent with the Town’s codes (there are discrepancies now) and considerations must be given to a choice between single family units only, or allowing other kinds of development to occur as well"
"If alternative strategies, beside residential redevelopment, are developed for the Island’s west end, the only area of the Island still available for residential building is the forested east end."
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Post by yaya on Sept 7, 2011 14:13:59 GMT -6
I am new to this board so please forgive me if this post lands in an odd place. In reviewing the official website of the town of Dauphin Island, I am finding only the orginial Dauphin Island Strategic Plan. I am refering to the one which reflects the ideas and desires of the residents who worked with the Five E's. Where does one locate an updated version?
Yaya
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Post by cmgraves on Sept 7, 2011 16:05:10 GMT -6
The Mayor stated at a meeting that the Strategic Plan and the new Comprehensive Plan had been combined together.
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Post by yaya on Sept 7, 2011 16:47:14 GMT -6
Ohhh, I see. I do know that every town is required by law to have a Comprehensive Plan, and it must be updated periodically. Also, the Dauphin Island Comprehensive Plan should represent and be a reflection of the Strategic Plan (which came from the residents that attended the Five E's). I think I mis-understood your original post. I thought the Strategic Plan was being re-written and was very curious about that. Thanks for explaining.
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Post by cmgraves on Sept 8, 2011 0:48:24 GMT -6
YaYa, you have peak my interest by your comments.
Do you think the strategic on the Town's site now the same as the original one that I got back in 2007? Do you think any thing has been added to the one on the Town site?
Was it the residents of Dauphin Island that agree that "If alternative strategies, beside residential redevelopment, are developed for the Island’s west end" and The picture on page 49 showing no houses on the beach?
Did the residents on the island decide with 5 e's that they wants the west end to go away so 1. that the developers can build the condo on the north side of Bienville so
2. that the Town/developers AFRC Military can build on the POA and the Park and Beach Board property and the Condo's to be built on the east end is that what it means by "If alternative strategies, beside residential redevelopment, are developed for the Island’s west end, the only area of the Island still available for residential building is the forested east end." I guess all of the residents will be living in the forested area, what do you think? I forgot about the Coast Guard property what did the residents decide about that when the Strategic Plan was formed? I don't remember that in the plan.
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Post by yaya on Sept 8, 2011 11:46:08 GMT -6
[quote author=cmgraves board=afrc thread=48 post=657
time=1315464504] YaYa, you have peak my interest by your comments.
Do you think the strategic on the Town's site now the same as the original one that I got back in 2007? Do you think any thing has been added to the one on the Town site?
Was it the residents of Dauphin Island that agree that "If alternative strategies, beside residential redevelopment, are developed for the Island’s west end" and The picture on page 49 showing no houses on the beach?
Did the residents on the island decide with 5 e's that they wants the west end to go away so 1. that the developers can build the condo on the north side of Bienville so
2. that the Town/developers AFRC Military can build on the POA and the Park and Beach Board property and the Condo's to be built on the east end is that what it means by "If alternative strategies, beside residential redevelopment, are developed for the Island’s west end, the only area of the Island still available for residential building is the forested east end." I guess all of the residents will be living in the forested area, what do you think? I forgot about the Coast Guard property what did the residents decide about that when the Strategic Plan was formed? I don't remember that in the plan.[/quote]
I have two of my grandbabies today, and it is impossible to focus. I have several thoughts on this, but it may be tomorrow before I can have the time to post. I did notice the last download to the Strategic Plan was in 2009. I have a copy of the original, also, and will try and print the current one and then compare. I'll get back with you.
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Post by cmgraves on Jun 5, 2012 11:57:50 GMT -6
Has any body heard that the Town plan is proposing only approximately 560 housing units for the whole island?
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